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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 6:07 am 
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Just an obvious detail,

The ban command also requires a level to be set for unban and shows who set the ban (username)

The kick command difference is about people wanting to evade that username recording. which if the kick command allowed masks lower than 200 would allow the user to mode set the ban and then just ask X to do the kick.

This means that for someone to perform that evasion they must have 200+ access.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:42 pm 
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Guys, objectively there's alot of channels being massbanned daily since long time.And their users\guests being disturbed of it, also such cases making people to hate IRC also they losting the fun. Lately people starts to put bnc on their channels to make it seems active because : people leaving the IRC.. the most popular chat channels making some activites to prevent their channels being died..In such cases A massban can be a end of the all.

If the one of 400+ channel op (Userlist admin) added A person to make massban then removed him, No-one will check or find a way to learn who was this person to added him an userlist.

Or you added a person an userlist because u trust him but his account got compromised or his BNC got hacked then he puts massban on the all channels of his accesses list.

Lately, Massban threating the help channels too ,however someone said ''NO'' ''I didnt hear''. (nastrand,translate,usernames) got massbanned by such ways as I mentioned above. And I dont think, their admins or managers dont know how to administrate a channel or it's totally their faults..In this case how can you will tell me : Do NOT register a channel if you dont know how to administrate it. Such things happen out of your control.

Consequently: should increase the minimum access level of massban command, would be 75 to 200 at least.. or 400 as you wish, but I think, only senior OPS must be able to perform that command , would be appreciated. Then it will prevent a big trouble

Thanx,RevivaL



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In the end their is only one thing to blame... bad channel management. you should only ad those you trust, and then only to an access level you can trust them with, mass-adding everyone to say 499 is only asking for trouble, and simply #CService can not help with that. #CService can not tell you how to mange your channel, we can only suggest that you manage it wisely, based on the commands available, and the access levels those commands require.

It is the Channel Manager that is ultimately responsible for their channel.



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Since It's discussable and we're here to ask how can we improve the undernet then I'm not in the same idea with you in this case.
We will ask that to the all users ''When you needed to use massban command'' I bet the half of them are never needed that command to use for a pozitive thing and the other half of the people didn't use it yet.
And this command does NOT recommend to use at the help channels when a guest going to ask it, also it's not exist at the ''X command'' list as it's a very dangerous a command, But if people shouldn't know that command then why exist? or If this command using frequently for takeover and leads a big trouble more than useful a thing,
And people will be needing to use it far between but daily using disadvantageous of undernet then a increase on the required access level of this command would be unavoidable.
Maybe it never occur on a channel which is you are an Op in, but it is a undeniable a real that threating to the all registered channels and known as an open sore of undernet since long time.
After increase the required access level of the massban command, what Undernet will lost? and will win? lets thought it 2 min.. Compromised accounts will not lead a massban occurred also will prevent lie under a suspicion of their actual owners.
If there's a important thing which is I forgot to consider, please go ahead

With all respect/RevivaL



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few developers of srvx services are opers the Undernet. they have solved this kind of problem. So this subject is certainly taken care of. or rejected. ask in #coder-com , im sure someone have the answer.



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Hi stefano,

Here is the best place to discuss it public with forummates, Then we will see the points of view by get people's ideas\opinions or objections. Example, cservice guides people to cservice@undernet.org for new project\ideas coming from people then reads their ideas and discuss it advisedly if it's a good idea or not. But the coder-com haven't any e-mail address for such kind of requests\ideas. And such requests\preject must be discussed public otherwise asking it like a question in #coder-com will be rejected easly in a few second by a official or unofficial person. Maybe we will discuss it at the coder-com section of the forum but since we start to get people's ideas about the topic if they're agree with us or oppose it for a valid reason which is we forgot to consider, then this topic still discussing at the right place under ''How can we improve undernet'' as we believe that will help undernet to be more useful.

Meanwhile, let us know what do you think about the topic that's enough.

King regards,RevivaL



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Access

This command will let you check what level of access a nickname has in any registered channel.

Command:
/msg ChanServ ACCESS #channel nickname
Example:
/msg ChanServ ACCESS #help Serene
AddAK

This command is the short version of the AKICK ADD command (see below) for adding a Permanent Kick for a registered channel.

Command:
/msg NickServ ADDAK #channel nick!user@host reason
Example:
/msg NickServ ADDAK #help Serene!peace@*.Serenity-IRC.Net Stick to guidelines please
AddOp

This command is the short version of the CHANOP ADD command (see below) for adding a registered nickname to the list of Operators for a channel.
For more help on Channel Operator Levels, see LEVELS help below.

Command:
/msg ChanServ ADDOP #channel nickname level
Example:
/msg ChanServ ADDOP #help Serene 5
These are some of the chanserv commands.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:56 am 
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Sorry ventap1011, your post is not relevant, undernet does not have nickserv or chanserv. Not to mention, you are responding to a 5 year old thread.



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